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Chad Nagle's avatar

In many ways, “neoconservatives” are really “Angletonians.” If they succeed in getting America into another war through the kind of deception used for Vietnam and Iraq, we’ll know they’re still in power.

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Thomas Graves's avatar

LOL!

Good one!

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Thomas Graves's avatar

Angleton was duped by a KGB "mole" in the mole-hunting Office of Security who just happened to be his post-Philby mentor, mole-hunting superior and exclusive confidant.

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Thomas Graves's avatar

Cram hated Angleton for his pursuing the KGB-manipulated James Bennett "mole" case when he was COS in Ottawa.

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Thomas Graves's avatar

Tom,

Your link to "Of Moles and Mole Hunters" by Cleveland Cram (who didn't realize that Angleton's confidant, mentor and mole-hunting superior, Bruce Leonard Solie in the mole-hunting Office of Security, was very probably a KGB "mole") is defunct.

Btw, Tom, have you ever watched British researcher Malcolm Blunt's 2021 YouTube interview about KGB false defector Yuri Nosenko (and probable KGB "mole" Bruce Solie)? If not, you don't know what you're missing. Blunt befriended Tennent H. Bagley in 2008 and showed him some CIA documents (that Bagley hadn't been privy to in 1959-1960) which convinced him that Oswald had been a "witting" defector to the USSR.

John M. Newman shows in his 2022 book "Uncovering Popov's Mole" -- which he dedicated to Bagley -- that Oswald mistakenly believed he was working for the CIA when in fact he was working for a KGB-controlled part of the CIA when he went to Moscow in October 1959.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lKG9fOe098

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Mark Taylor's avatar

The more one studies the track record of the CIA and its many betrayals of American laws, supposed ethical standards and international law, no single entity is more responsible for the collapse of the United States than the CIA. The evil within the agency and inflicted upon literally billions of people through their various bloody coups to enrich the corporate state, drug trade, engineered wars, paranoia and deceit and even torture of foreigners and Americans has made Eisenhower's warning of the Military Industrial Complex not only real, but running the country straight into the ground.

Our active, enthusiastic support of the Gaza genocide and "hand in pocket, doing only God knows what" alliance with the fully fascist Zionist state of Israel is our final act. The southern hemisphere has, rightfully, had enough. More and more -- as we saw recently in the Red Sea -- the US is rightfully isolated and marginalized like a crazy uncle in the attic. The CIA has done its best at doing the worst and we are now facing the consequences.

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Thomas Graves's avatar

The CIA was penetrated over and over again by KGB "moles," at least one of whom -- probable "mole" Bruce Leonard Solie (read my Substack articles on him) -- was only recently uncovered by British researcher Malcolm Blunt, former CIA officer Tennent H. Bagley (RIP), and former high-level Army Intelligence analyst and NSA officer, John M. Newman.

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